Thanks Jo, it's good to hear from you.I have looked at the frenum pictures and see that a lot of guy's do have both.Maybe my top frenum wont be in the way.
Well, I hope you can keep both, but if not, I think the PA would be worth it. I have seen 1 or 2 guys, out of hundreds who took their out for some reason. As you might expect, the issue of peeing has come up in the forums quite a few times, in case you want to do a search there. I have heard of guys twisting their bits 1/4 turn, using a plug, like ppl wear in their earlobes, instead of jewelry, pushing the jewelry or a finger, up against the bottom hole, stepping forward closer to the urinal. There may be other ideas too in the forums, in case you want to search the forums.
Let us know what you decide.

Joann
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Or as far as peeing.just stand over the toilet instead of in front and let it rip,a full stream and no spray every time,actually my 2g helps because it holds my urethra open and no issues as far as peeing...Now if/when I get to like a 00g it may fill my urethra,then Houston we may have a problem....hehehe
p379....pa....pa...pa...pa...pa....pa.... peer pressure,isn't it great...
No,seriously you would love a pa man,and I'm sure your piercer could work around your frenums man.
PS; I like your hat,in your new pic !!!
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Silver and Jo's responses are almost enough to convince me. I've actually been considering a reverse PA because I do not want to give up my top frenum...
thanks Silver.peer pressure,it's a good thing.with you and hugo around i'll have to be like tim the tool man taylor and go out
to the garage and build a pump out of my air compressor ,and build build something out of steel with my welder that would look koooool............lol.....keep the peer pressure up silver
P3,
Well normally I don't like to push people into things, but since you asked:
peerpressurepeerpressurepeerpressurepeerpressurepeerpressurepeerpressure
If you get the PA, I think your only regret will be why didn't you get it sooner.

Joann
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LMAO p379,you are too much,just don't forget to regulate that compressor man...we don't need another "GoodYear Blimp" hehehe
And welder ...ouhhh....ouhhh Something nice and heavy to hang on your willy for x-mas !! lol
pa....pa...pa...pa...pa....pa... I won't stop until you have a ring on it !!
Like I say "If you Like it then you better put a Ring on It"
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I think the pa is the way to
Posted on November 8, 2009, 7:59 pmI think the pa is the way to go for sure,coming from me who got mine at age 46 little over a year ago.It rocks and the bigger the gauge get the better it feels for all(I think you will hear this from all most all who have one)I have not heard of any migrating or rejection problems with the pa,but suppose its possible(most problems come from stretching it too soon i believe).Make sure you find a piercer that know what they are doing and tell them if you plan on stretching to larger gauges ahead of time(if I had known this I would have had mine placed a little lower than the std 3/4 in from bottom of pee slit to the exit hole)also If i was to do it again I would start with a 8g,no smaller than a 10 gauge for sure.It is more comfy with the larger gauges....I think you would have to take out your frenum thats closest to your head,but your piercer would no better.As far as sitting to pee...I have been able to stand or sit when peeing,never have got a spray from it,Only some dripping,so I pat dry with some tp,but everyone's different.Sitting should be fine with a pa...I also have had some migrating probs with my scrotals,don't know if its due to wearing a cbr,maybe I should have worn a sr8 BB instead until healed,or like u say maybe just not pierced deep and wide enough? I will add a few more and make them deeper and see.
My pa was my 1st piercing and i would do it all over,It is by far my favorite so far !
Feel free to pm me if you have more questions...
Later and take care man,hope this helps,and there are a ton of great info and dudes willing to help on this site....
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I would say pretty much
Posted on November 8, 2009, 8:22 pmI would say pretty much everything Silvertip said. As far as pain, mine did hurt for about 3 seconds. Kinda like getting a shot, then when he put the ring in...immediate bliss. I usually sit to pee at home only cause sometimes although I don't spray, the initial stream can tend to go in a direction different than what I intend. Urinals are no problem. The larger gauges definitely feel better. I started at 10ga and now am 2ga. I know 8 guys with PAs and tons more here and I have never heard of any migration issues. I would definitely recommend it; I would do it again. I only wish I had done it years ago!
Let me know any questions you have. You'll find lot of helpful friends here. Go for it and keep us posted!
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thanks guys for your
Posted on November 9, 2009, 9:05 pmthanks guys for your response.it helps knowing these things ahead of time.8ga is bigger than 10ga right?
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Yep, the smaller the number,
Posted on November 9, 2009, 9:12 pmYep, the smaller the number, the bigger the gauge.
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P3. Silver and Ninja both
Posted on November 11, 2009, 9:34 pmP3.
Silver and Ninja both gave some great advice, and I would agree, I have been here since January and read all kinds of stuff, and never heard of a PA being lost to migration. They are very fast healing piercings, and in probably 99% of what I've read here, problem free. I also find them quite sexy, and hope my hubby will get one someday, and there are plenty of wives and girlfriends here, who also love their guy's PA, often dependent on what jewelry he wears in it.
[quote from P3]thanks guys for your response.it helps knowing these things ahead of time.8ga is bigger than 10ga right?
Yes, Luna is correct on this, and I also wanted to add that it is very common in genital piercings, especially male genital, to put one gauge thicker jewelry than the needle, to reduce or prevent bleeding. For example, you would have your piercer pierce you with a 10g needle, and use an 8g taper to put in 8g jewelry. Or 8g needle, 6g taper and 6g jewelry.
As Silver said the thicker the better, since it will reduce the amount of stretching later. For sure no smaller than 10g to prevent the "wire cheese cutter effect," which is where your jewelry can almost cut you, and definitely cause you pain during activities involving "friction." Jewelry that is too thin can also make certain activities painful for your girl too.
If possible, get your PA when you have a day or 2 off from driving, but even if that's not possible, it should still heal up just fine.
If you look in the frenum gallery here (blue bar across the top of the screen), there are pics of guys who have both a PA and frenum, but like Silver said, only your piercer can say for sure if your top one will interfere with the PA or not. Also, there are experience stories and articles here, if you are interested in reading (also on the blue bar across the top of the page). And if you ask your questions in the forums (also blue bar), you will get answers from other guys, who aren't so active on this part of the site.
I hope all this helps you, and in case you missed my vote, I say DO IT.
Joann
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