A month ago i was looking for information about hafada and prince albert and i decided to go for hafada, so i when and did it i came out of the piercer so good that i finally did it it hurt a litter but it was OK. But i was like looking for something more and i when to another piercer to do the PA, i was so ready that i really did not hurt at all, the only think was when he was inserting the tube through the uretra and a litter sting but that was it. The hafada hurt more than the PA in my case. So now i am in the healing proses. And feels so good that i am done, now waiting to get a bigger seze like #8 gauge.